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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jun 13, 2009 10:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: 1978

The enigmatic year of 1978, a swirl of coke, Egypt, some truly inspired playing, plenty of schlock, ending with one of the top five best Grateful Dead concerts out there...1978 is the Persian circus tent of the Grateful Dead catalog, filled with freaks and temptations...

As good as 1977 is, the best of '78 stacks up favorably...in fact most of the Terrapin Station and Shakedown fare starts to loosen up nicely by fall...

Garcia steps into his singing quite a bit, I've heard it called "hamming it up", "over-enunciating", "affectation", but to me it's the studio affect...fine by me...in 1978 Garcia switched to the Wolf and really started to go to the scrub rock fanfare to finish songs...many songs got the fanning technique throughout the year...

Bob Weir starts up with that horrible slide in 1978, which is probably the biggest drag to the band's sound outside of the occasional bleating from Donna...

As to the shows, the best shows, give or take...quite a few are commercial releases...

01-22-1978-MacArthur Court--Hot playing, Tennessee Jed will kick your head in the first set...late second set culminating with the Close Encounters Garcia noodle, Other One, St. Stephen...http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-01-22.sbd-partial.unknown.287.sbeok.shnf

02-05-1978-Uni-Dome, Cedar Falls, Iowa- classic Second Set includes huge Scarlet>Fire, Other Wharf Rat is immense...this one is Dick's Picks tagged with 02-03...http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-02-05.aud.set2.warner.19466.sbeok.shnf`

04-22-1978-Wharf Rat best ever? tight playing throughout...http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-04-22.sonyECM250.walker-scotton.miller.92808.flac16

04-24-1978-Dekalb, IL- I haven't heard a better Music Never Stopped, rest of show is very good, check out long Scarlet >Fire (also look to 04-11-1978 version of this pair) http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-04-24.sbd.miller.97543.sbeok.flac16

07-07-1978-Red Rocks-very high enery show http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-07-07.sbd.jerugim.293.sbeok.shnf

07-08-1978-Red Rocks- great Ramble on Rose, top three version of Estimated into nice Eyes, classic show, maybe the 2nd best show of the year...Terrapin, Werewolves encore http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-07-08.sbd.tobin.91871.flac16

09-16-1978-best Egypt show, solid first set, rather mundane setlists in Egypt, Shakedown Street is studio quality http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-09-16.sbd.miller.88314.sbeok.flac16

10-17-1978-From Egypt With Love--love this show...great second set, very dynamic...Scarlet>Fire, Estimated>Eyes, World to Give...listen to space to hear the woman go up on stage to ask Garcia for banjo lessons http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-10-17.sbd.miller.89257.sbeok.flac16

10-21-1978-FEWL solid first set, Estimated well played with a deep end jam...Mojo Working>Other One absolutely huge...Stella Blue is classic, US Blues is about as fun as Dead music gets...top 3 show of the year easy...http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-10-21.aud.rhinotrocity5.motb-0015.94600.flac24

11-20-1978-Cleveland- second set jam>JackaRoe>Shakedown>Playin>World to Give check it out http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-11-20.sbd.fix.miller.95660.sbeok.flac16

11-24-1978-Garcia has touch of laryngitis, but the playing makes up for it...Sugaree, Fire out of drums has the groove that you look for...http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-11-24.pre-fm.miller.87642.sbeok.flac16

12-31-1978--Winterland closing, the band plays up to the set list (Bill Graham asked them to pull out some nuggets for this show), my personal favorite New Years show, Sugar Magnolia>Scarlet>Fire opener, top 3 Ramble on Rose, Samson, Miracle, Terrapin (spot on), Playin, Dark Star, St. Stephen, Other One, Wharf Rat, Bid You Goodnight...official release no copy available

honorable mention: Garcia no singing shows 01-07, 01-08 feature great Garcia playing. 04-12-1978, 04-16-1978, 06-25-1978, 07-05-1978, 12-28-1978, 12-30-1978







This post was modified by stratocaster on 2009-06-13 17:29:39

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Poster: K-Wave Date: Jun 12, 2009 8:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

In my opinion, the very best year for being able to listen to everyone simultaneously. Not that that makes it the "best" in terms of mixes, i.e. I guess some folks might find it clutters, some sound folks find too many instruments competing in the same frequency. Bob is starting to get kind of "bell-like" and chimey. Jer is playing way down in the mix. Keith on the Yamaha(?) electric grand w/ lees dynamic and frequency range, i.e. een low notes have lots of higher overtones.

But along with the "sameness," it somehow makes it easy as the listener (for me at least) to hear them listening to each other, if that makes sense to you.

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Poster: JC Edwards Date: Jun 13, 2009 3:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

All I know is K-Wave needs to come up with a new handle.....'cause this one is causing me to have some serious 1970's "K-Tell presents" flashback's!! :-)~

Sayyyyyyy......(William) TELL and K(-wave)......an odd coincidence?!.....HAH! An "East Bound and Down" Conspiracy I say!

I demand a Court of Inquiry!

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Jun 13, 2009 5:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Great post strat. Thanks.

Agree with pretty much everything. I like 1/22 the best. Also note the huge TMNS, and what just might be the best Jack Straw ever.

I'm not the biggest fan of 12/31, but when it comes to set-list, you just can't beat it. I think the quality of play is better the night before. Check out little tunes like Jed, Promised Land, Passenger, and Loser. A good night for Garcia. A nice Sugaree as well. 2nd set all pretty solid.

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Poster: Ernie Bo-Peep Date: Jun 12, 2009 9:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Great list, strat.

Regarding the April shows, seek out the recent Charlie Miller transfers and get them all. They are tremendous!
4/21/79 post-drums is a prime example:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-04-21.sbd.miller.97501.sbeok.flac16

I would add DP25 (5/10-11/78) as an honorable mention.

9/2/78 gets mentioned on most 1978 lists but it's absent on this one...why? Because it is an over-rated show. Great setlist but it really lacks that special ingredient for a great show. The more I listened to it, the less I valued it. Of course others may disagree with that which is why there are GD message boards in the first place!
Ernie (aka StrawRider)

This post was modified by Ernie Bo-Peep on 2009-06-13 04:53:55

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Jun 13, 2009 10:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

I second that HM for 5/10 and 5/11 - 5/11 never fails to get me laughing, AND 5/10 is just a pristine performance.

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Jun 15, 2009 4:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Strat- If you are back todoing these summaries then I am pleased aspunch- you were doing this when I first started posting here and you inspired me to pursue an encyclopedic knowledge of shows and best versions- I encourage you to continue- you have pointed out many a version that are now in my top ten

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jun 13, 2009 12:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: 78 Sleeper West Virginia Creeper

Long time favorite 78 sleeper...and a Hunter Seamons Matrix to boot. Odd, kind of off balance set list with Scarlet>Fire ending the first set and the second set high-lite is Etimated>Eyes>Drums>Space>Iko>Sugar Mags.

Haven't listened to the matrix, but the SBD was outstanding.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-04-16.mtx.seamons.98535.flac16

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Poster: snori Date: Jun 14, 2009 7:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 78 Sleeper West Virginia Creeper

Probably my favourite Peggy-O on this one.

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Poster: thebone Date: Jun 16, 2009 6:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 78 Sleeper West Virginia Creeper

This is an incredible show--maybe the best show of '78!

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Jun 13, 2009 2:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Don't forget this one...Everything you hoped 1978 could be.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-12-16.sonyecm250-no-dolby.walker-scotton.miller.82212.sbeok.flac16

This post was modified by SkyDawg on 2009-06-13 09:38:37

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jun 13, 2009 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

12/16/78 may be overlooked by many since it's an AUD - but it's very much worth checking out, a highlight in an uneven month.
12/19/78 (another AUD) is also notable for a unique & memorable Stella>NFA transition:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-12-19.sony.barrick.305.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jun 13, 2009 8:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

I'll check this one out today...for many years I only had low quality filler from this show...

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jun 13, 2009 12:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

The 12/16 show features one of my favorite Scarlet> Fires of the era, hands down -- absolutely blistering. This is also an example of GREAT Bobby slide work from 78. It wasn't always good, but when it worked - wow.

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Poster: wineland Date: Jun 12, 2009 7:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

April '78 is one of my favorite months of shows. I'd throw the Duke show from April 12 into your top ten list.

The mix of chemicals seemed to still be manaageable for Garcia and I like the new 78 texture to the music.

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Jun 12, 2009 7:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Ditto on April to add to Strat's fine list.

Don't miss out on 4/8 (Killer S>F), 4/12 (possibly best ROW JIMMY ever), 4/16 (another immense S>F and a Space>IKO in set 2), 4/24 (yet again w/the S>F and much more)...

'78 had a touch of "go for broke" rock and roll grit that perhaps '77 didn't chase as ambitiously, but lacked '77's precision and fluidity. When they connected in '78 it was out of the ballpark....when they missed it was a pretty ugly train wreck. Most of the year they connected.

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Poster: JC Edwards Date: Jun 12, 2009 8:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Did some one say '78?!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1978-04-19.sbd.gans.miller.9121.shnf

By far, the best Samson and Delilah.....HANDS DOWN!

Billy and Mickey just go OFF!!! :-D

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jun 13, 2009 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Mickey and Bill carry this version, the drums that ate San Francisco...Keith wakes up enough to contribute some nice fills...I was hoping Garcia would break out the washboard...

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Poster: BongWzrd Date: Jun 13, 2009 12:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Well 78' will always be special in my heart...

I was born on 02-03-78 at 10:36pm, I think during The Wheel..

Dicks Picks 18 was burned into my brain early on....


After 02-05-78 some same it was the end of an Era....

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Poster: Jim F Date: Jun 13, 2009 11:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

"Poor Man's 1977" Hahaha love it!

78 is hit or miss for me too. There are surely some real highlights in there though, most of which were mentioned. I'm a sucker for anything 1966-77, but my interest tapers off in 78. Bobby's playing throughout the year especially turns me off a bit. I can't think of any other GD member whose sound completely changed like it did, esp in such a short amount of time. And most of those '78 interminable drum solos are hard to get all the way through. It's a real shame really, because the beginning of 78 held real promise, I love all of those California dates to open the year where they threw in the little trios and such. But then it just kinda went downhill. Wasn't it David Lemieux who said something like "After 2/5/78, it's all fluff?"

I hold similar opinions of 79. Sure, there's some great stuff in there, esp the Fall tour, but on the whole, it's not a year I visit too often. A show past 1980 has to be pretty special to get my listen (such as 8/28/81).

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Poster: snori Date: Jun 14, 2009 7:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Let's not overlook jgb in 1978. Some great shows in March and October.

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Poster: deadmax Date: Jun 13, 2009 6:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

This is great! I love Strat for starting this 'cuz I was really wondering about this year. I've listened to tons of shows from '78 but not in a manner that led to a fluid understanding of that year. 74, 75, 76, 77, and 79 yes but not 78. So as soon as I'm finished with every show in 76 I'll trip into 78 and listen to the above recommended shows.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jun 13, 2009 10:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

78 is more miss than hit fore me. I'm familiar with most of the shows you listed and do enjoy some. Over all I find 78 to be a sloppy year and Jerry's voice is obvioulsy on the permanent decline.

Don't get me wrong there's some great stuff to be had but over all I don't gravitate too much to 78. I did however in fact listen to 10-22 last night to hear that brilliant Bill G into before the very nice Scarlet Fire

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jun 12, 2009 6:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Bless you, Strat! I've been looking for some good '78s. It's such an up and down year, other than my fave '78, [Rambler Room, Loyola College, 11/17,] I didn't know where to begin...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 12, 2009 6:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

SAw a number of those shows, at least the Bay ARea ones...still always enjoyed the 75 ones more, but 78 had some nice moments from a live perspective for sure.

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Poster: daliguana Date: Jun 12, 2009 8:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

1978

love me some '78!

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Jun 13, 2009 8:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

in a word - AWESOME

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jun 13, 2009 8:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Thanks for taking the time with this list. Great reference material here for anyone looking for a guide to the best of 1978.

Like many, however, I personally find '78 to be lacking ON THE WHOLE- there a are great shows, yes, but I always thought of it as "the poor man's '77".

You do have most of the highlights covered. The Close Encounters show, Red Rocks 7/8, 10/21, and 11/24 are my primary favorites when I want to sample some '78 and I feel that all are must-haves for anyone assembling a representative collection of late 70s Dead. The 4/16 show Earl mentions is also fun.

(The NYE show, however, would probably make my all-time top five most overrated shows list- looks great on paper, but the music mostly falls flat)

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jun 13, 2009 9:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

1978 is not as consistent as 1977, but may be more interesting...

I love the New Years Eve show, considering it was the closing of Winterland, the set list is top notch...can't really ask for much more...

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Poster: Ras ViKing Date: Jun 19, 2009 7:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 1978

Well 1978-04-22 has been in my playlist for some time now since it's another b-day show. However, I haven't done a lot of poking around in this year so THANKS! for what look like some grate starting points.

Always a blessing to find more GD to listen to.

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